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 Post subject: Re: Let's talk about season 2
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:06 pm 
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Yeah the thing with sexualize Cameron.
If it made sense in the context, i can deal with it. But in this case, it made no sense.
She hasn't to do this things to get the scans of the id cards.

The scene with mop was quit interesting. She thinks? Great, wanna see more of those glitches.
For me, i don't think they wanna put 3 main Characters in danger. It was good because Sarah was confronted with the possibility of getting cancer.

One problem i have with the show is that at first there are to many terminators running around and then they get killed so easy.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:12 pm 
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Malcolm Reynolds wrote:

One problem i have with the show is that at first there are to many terminators running around and then they get killed so easy.


And this way Kyle's 'it's only me and him' looses sense. Holy Hannah, that place is CROWDED with terminators and people from the future! :mrgreen:

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Has anyone seen Camerons face expression when she saw the movie in the power plant?
Very Funny. It seems to be that she liked it. :)

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You know what scene I liked, was when Cameron touched the prego lady's stomach to feel the baby. I thought it was an amazing scene even though it was so short. For a Robot ( in this case a cyborg/terminator) to feel human life inside growing :D , when ironically enough they were originally created to kill.
The reason I love this series so much, is because the characters evolve more and more, and you don't know what they are going to do next, towards their own character and motive in the series :) which makes everything in it exciting, and on top of that it has a good plot and good action.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:20 pm 
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Once again Cameron/Summer had the best scenes in the episode. I loved the part where she threw the other terminator into the power lines, her expression and her interaction with Sarah afterward was priceless. I also liked the mop scene, I'm still not sure if that was a glitch from the explosion, or if she was actually thinking about something.

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I better not browse internet about the show. I can picture the commentaries online. Poor Summer. She's talented actress and such comments are highly rude and unfair to her.

You're right. Sometimes it's very disgusting what the people write about Summer. But what worries me the most about the sexualization of Cameron/Summer is that this could damage Summer's career. If the people (in Hollywood) only recognizes her as "hot action chick", she could fall into the typecasting trap and maybe never get other roles. This would be a catastrophe.


Unfortunately I think that's happened already. Her three biggest roles so far have all been psycho and/or super action chicks (Cameron, River, and Tess (4400)). I love her in all those roles, but I can't help but think that she probably wants to move on to something else.

I also agree that they're really overdoing the sex symbol thing. I know that's probably the easiest way for fox to pull in the ratings, but she's such a complex character, and when they resort to simple sexuality too often it feels like we're getting cheated out of some real character development.

I still don't even really see Summer of a sex symbol (and I mean that in a good way). imo she's more of the 'cute girl next door', not a voluptuous super model. If Cameron was being played by Angelina Jolie, then it would be one thing, but Summer has a whole lot more to offer.

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I liked the second episode a lot . The only problem I see is that well-crafted drama scenes are not always match to the action and general story, that becomes more and more illogical and less believable. Finally I can get boring with too many obvious questions with clumsy answers.
Anyway, I liked to see Cameron- Summer playing a pool in leopard outfit. Such a cliche, but Summer made it work. I don't know if sexualizing can be bad for Summer's carrier. I hope it'll help. But personally I would prefer to see her in new good movies than only on the covers of the magazines.
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still don't even really see Summer of a sex symbol (and I mean that in a good way). imo she's more of the 'cute girl next door', not a voluptuous super model.

One thing that amazes me in Summer that she can be both. I even hope that one day she will become an actress that people were waiting unconsciously for years.


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I don't know if sexualizing can be bad for Summer's carrier. I hope it'll help. But personally I would prefer to see her in new good movies than only on the covers of the magazines.
Sure it could help. But I doubt that Summer just wanna get hired because of her sexiness and her popularity with the male audience. I guess she prefers to get jobs because of her acting skills. And I would be prefer to see her rather in movies than on magazine covers too. Summer isn't a model but an actress.

In order to doesn't get totally off-topic, here are the official ratings for the 2nd episode.
Total viewers: 5.49 million (-0,85 million, -13,41%, rank 3)
Viewers between 18 and 49 years: 2 million (-0.4 million, -16.67%, rank 1)

And some reviews about the 2nd episode:
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i wounder if cameron is an android or a cyborg.
a android is a robot that looks human but a cyborg is a human with robot parts i say this because i dont think a computer can love but a human can

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I Loved all of Season 1 for sure Season two is even better! I think they should have more future scenes because they are always really cool.

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I had my lunch and so it's time for me to talk about the 3rd episode. I love this episode. It's muuuuuch better than the 2nd episode (and I hope the ratings will be too). The "The house is moving" and "I'll kill the bird" scenes were brilliant and very funny. Summer did a perfect job in these 2 scenes because Cameron's lines were very similar to River Tam's lines in Firefly but Summer played Cameron very different from River. Other actresses maybe wouldn't be able to play Cameron different than River and I guess it was hard work or Summer to make Cameron different from River because these 2 scenes could be direct from Firefly. Really an awesome performance by Summer and a proof of her great acting skills.

Another thing which I loved about this episode was that Cromatie is back :D I missed him in the 2nd because Garret Dillahunt is a wonderful Terminator. He impersonates the merciless killer machine very well and he and Summer are really worthy successors of Arnold Schwarzenegger. And the "Conan the Barbarian" parody was brilliant- I'm still laughing :)

And I liked that the stories of Agent Ellison and Mr. Dixon got a push. It was nice to see that the producers doesn't hesitate to kill (supporting) characters. Probably it will be interesting to see what kind of team Agent Ellison and the T-1001 will be. Especially because of the sentence "I want you to help me find another one". I wonder if this is referring to Cameron?

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